since blocks are fixed, hold xia instead of 1s for genbutsu (but 1s is in TWO ponds?)
2m is genbutsu so i didn’t need to break 67m ryanmen
i wanna fold cause i dont wanna drop chun dora too scary sorry!
tanyao brainrot but i think about fixing 567 sanshoku too much. tan yao dora 2 is enough?
i chii 67m but what’s the granular difference here if i cut 2m anyway? does revealing 456m vs 567m make that much of a difference if i show my sanshoku block? help
well what if you drew the 3rd chun?
ok fine
i guess 7p is bad? but i’d rather cut it now rather than later? i guess naga wants me to fold NOW but i dont feel that anyone is tenpai just yet
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lol chanta turds. somehow in my mind there’s no way he’d hold 223s so i was ok cutting 1s… but it could have been shanpon 11s or tanki 1s!
i suppose 3p is more dead than 7s
ehhhhhhhhhh i think even if i catch a 2nd xia i would be sad trying to wait for the third to come out…. but i would toss out haku before that maybe………..?
bro if i draw 7p there’s no way im cutting a 6p because i want a 7700 direct hit on shimocha so its a dead block in my mind. so fuck the 8p
I was thinking 1shanten chiitoi… 4m is 2 shanten tan yao but is more flexible in picking up remaining tiles to reach keiten?
definitely way more aggressive on atozuke than I am comfortable with… I guess I can see it, but not a big fan of it
2p and 3p are both genbutsu…. 2p fucks my hand up less… I guess if we know my hand is fucked either way then 2p is safer against future pushers? is what i can come up with
*fucks my hand up even more*
I don’t want to absolutely fold yet, do I…? also note toimen passed ron on 9p for pinfu dora lol. he ippatsumo’d the 9p next turn too
tan yao brain… i was thinking i can save the 9p to cut last because it’s safest but maybe i should just be playing full efficiency? I don’t want more 7ms though but I guess having the acceptance for it doesnt hurt
3m redundant on 56m ryanmen. also, 1shanten chiitoi
9p is indeed safer than xia here. also, even if i draw 7p for 789p can’t use it to win
accidentally right click skipped here lol
i was thinking i can expand more on the manzu…. technically im 1shanten if i keep the 13p shape but i do’nt want to end on 2p kanchan… but it’s expandable to 34567p so it’s probably not as bad as i think it is
bitch i need POINTS what do you mean you dont want me to daiminkan
kagashi’s got my back on this one
only did this cause of excessive call lag on the first discarded nan. if i didn’t know it was call lagged then yes this makes sense
somehow i had ‘chanta’ in my hand despite seeing (AND CONFIRMING) I had 3s pon here. lol
ok i think this one makes a little sense… im at 3:30 yasume / 4:30 takame and other people are probably tenpai too so I think there’s more downside for me here in raising other people’s hand value on this call
i think i have enough blocks here… but maybe I don’t? I feel like if I catch another chun here it would be huge for the atozuke play
Sorry I don’t get this one. If I can upgrade picking up 6s I get sanshoku! or a 0s pair! maybe I want a safer tile to discard after I hit tenpai?
now you want to hold onto the 5s????? mega confused
East 2-2
okay I concede 3p has no efficiency value but MUH 345s sanshoku….
East 3-1
isolated terminal vs non-value wind? torn on this one… i’d much rather toss xia vs 1p on a double riichi… or would I actually? since we know daburii has higher wait on tanki honor tiles (source: my ass) than any other wait, given that the most common daburii hand is chiitoi and the player would more likely pick an honor tile over a non honor tile for tenpai if possible (source: my ass again, i read it somewhere before ok)
East 4-1
agree 6s serves no purpose at this point. we should have done sakigiri now and save 9m for discarding later
when choosing which pair to cut when all seems equal, lets cut the pair that has been once cut vs the non-cut pair (6p in kamicha hand = less chance of 6p being pon tile for someone, whereas both 6s are still live). OK
let’s sakigiri 6s. I don’t need it. OK
let’s toss most likely genbutsu over absolute genbutsu first. OK
borderline to not chii; i’m taking it because i’m not necessarily hurting for points and am ok taking 2000 here to advance the round vs fishing for closed tan sanshoku for 5200 (mangan riichi).
South 1-1
fuck penchans all my homies hate penchans
sakigiri 8p makes sense – there’s really no way i’m gonna hold onto it in completing my hand at this point.
South 2-1
I did consider this pon as I do think nan should come out pretty easily… but I don’t want to be overly aggressive and get caught out by riichi with my point lead so I err on the side of caution rather than being aggressive here.
same as above
same as above goddammit ok i fucked up
maybe i should stop pushing against two open call dealer if i want to be”safe” :^)
South 2-1
I think the case here is you can build 789 sanshoku here, whereas I have absolutely nothing on the 123 side. ehhhhhhh its a stretch but every little bit matters so OK fine
don’t like this difference, i’d much rather sakigiri dora honor now since I don’t need more points at this point in time in case someone tanki riichis it in a turn or two.
South 3-1
isolated terminal > valueless wind? ok fine
I’d rather not help feed more yakuhai to shimo in last if I can help it… I’m ok folding my hand to advance to next round for muh 4th place avoidance.
genbutsu 1s cut lol isn’t that incongruent with my last statement????
i have no idea why kamicha tossed 7m into my riichi. i was confused. maybe he’s like no genbutsu so fuck everything
South 3-2
I’m thinking if I pick up another 9m I can switch to junchan… I guess 8p lets me keep 789 sanshoku alive but I feel like my blocks are set on 7899m 12p 123s 78s 66z…? I did end up cutting 9m in the end but I guess 78p is a upgrade over 12p kanchan so OK fine
i want to commit to junchan chance… but riichi on 8s or 6z draw is fine too i guess. i dont need more points here…
South 3-2
lone terminal > non-value wind
South 4-1
what am i doing here?????????? I was thinking i’d somehow end on 3444p tenpai but why go the long way around when I can just cut 3p?
2m genbutsu to start folding. I was thinking 5s to fold out is nakasuji to shimocha so it’s safe but toimen has already tedashi’d since his 2m drop so he could hit possibly hit me with dama. I find it hard for him to have dama mangan though to overtake me if he’s dropping 2m and i have one of the red fives
just genbutsuing out… i guess technically shimocha could switch to 5m tenpai on the discard but there’s no way it’s baiman to drop me out of 1st… I guess shimocha could technically use it so that would be the main demerit over 8s
End
gg dude you’re very bad hand rate is high
Points to Consider
isolated terminals are worth more than non-value winds in early discards
let’s sakigiri tiles earlier that can’t improve our shapes (34s ryanmen >> 6 is shit)
open pon palace hands if we have 4 pairs + yakuhai? especially early?
hey did you know if you play better these posts won’t be as long? hidden incentive to play better…
I have 5 blocks already… is 7p too aggressive for sakigiri here? I guess 6p upgrade but I think 3344m, 34s, 779s, 22z are my blocks here but I guess I shouldn’t be so rigid about it
Chii here because I think I can pick up 2z pretty easily down the line and it’s dora. Brings my hand to 2000 nan dora vs 1000 nan nomi…?
Just sakigiri things since again I have my blocks set. Middling difference anyway
Bro IDK man fuck you
East 2-1
Legit error, just tossing wind while I was walking :^)
I did think about this one…. there is the potential for sanshoku 234 but I’d rather take the riichi opportunity if I draw 7s
I dont think I’m folding yet so 8p vs 9s is the debate. The early 4p and my ability to see 3 8s makes me think 9s is safer to discard (Naga feels the same) but dumping 8p seems too risky here to me (I would put the tenpai it on 58p or 69p based on the early 4p discard)
I’m not riichiing this go away
East 3-1
Value honor vs isolated terminal… OK
I guess I could be thinking about chiitoi earlier? If I drew 8s I’d shoot myself though. Trying to still keep options open here
I don’t understand this one – keeping 8p leaves me furiten on 7p draw, and once cut for chiitoi – 1m lets me use 2m for normal hand and is not cut at all so far. Am I trying to be careful of shimocha with the 5m cut?
Both 3m and 7s are genbutsu to shimocha riichi. I suppose 9p cut from toimen indicates possible danger since that’s a push tile, so 7s also protects against toimen if he was tenpai already.
East 3-2
Sanshoku potential if we keep 6s? I feel like we have our blocks set already and I don’t need to dangle a loose tile… drawing 12p lets me switch to pinfu over ton pair for riichi.
Same… I ended up cutting the 2p to riichi after on 7p draw so I guess I really don’t need the 2p?????
Not sure what I was going for here… 33m pair isn’t secure here so cutting the 9s is going back a step here. OK
No difference for me… I suppose 1p is safer vs shimocha if we get later into the round?
South 2-1
I am thinking chin itsu here but I think getting nan is pretty low rate and I wanna try to conceal my discards a little bit… I do agree pure efficiency though cutting 4p/4s is better but I opted to go for a tiny bit of misdirection from away from manzu hand
Tsumo… rest of the differences are indifferent to me for pinzu/souzu discard order
South 2-1
Value Dragon vs Round Wind. OK
This makes sense to me from a pure efficiency standpoint – I was fantasizing of drawing another 5p for san an kou but this makes sense…
Trash riichi but it is worth 7700… I can’t take it. I will hope to find another wait down the line.
Got the 4p anyway in the end (or from shimocha twice) but dugout the 23s. So Lucky
South 2-2
Fuck You
I know 2234s lets me chii 2s/5s from kamicha but I wanted to take my chances on drawing 3p/5p instead. Plus if I draw 3s I’ll be ready sad if I furiten myself on 1s.
South 2-3
Indifferent… I want to be away from 7p iipeikou on 789p since 9p is pretty dead. Also helps with 0p acceptance.
I’m thinking tan yao here… I do have 4 pair chiitoi but should I really be thinking about tanyao if I have the 789p block?
Indifferent. I would rather deal the nan now and have someone pon it rather than get ronned on it later. Plus hatsu is my pocket safe tile for later.
South 3-3
Once cut seat wind vs uncut dragon – Ehhhhhhhhhh OK… I don’t usually adjust for discarded winds/dragons until they’re two cut in opening hand efficiency but I guess we can start.
I just want to end the round quickly here… I don’t see additional value here beyond picking up more dora so I want to open up for it. Pretty far for riichi too so I will take the speed here.
But somehow I wanted to go for Hon itsu here… lol if I wanted to do that I should have held on to all my wind tiles right :^)
Rest of differences are wanting to toss 1m earlier. OK i agree in hindsight but switching to hon itsu would have been sick
South 4-1
Value honor vs terminal – OK
I do want the 24m block for tan yao but what if I draw 1p/3p for pinfu/riichi? Normal me would just do 1p and force tan yao immediately but I’m trying to be smart ):
Arguably 2s has no value for me since we have 2 1s cut already… OK
I don’t wanna cut 5s in case shimocha needs it…
I did think about this and opted for 8m vs 7m since it would be harder for shimocha to chii 8m vs 7m… I’d end up picking another 8m after |:
Close enough…
gg dude
End
It’s ok; Could argue my riichi in East 3 cost me the end but there’s no way you don’t riichi that hand.
Points to Consider
Value Honors > Isolated Terminals
Place more value on 5200/7700 non-oya/oya shit wait riichis?
Feigning misdirection is not worth it on hon/chin itsu hands (I know this already but I didn’t commit to it in South 2-1 by throwing the nan early)
