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2m > 7p (23m vs 7p ukeire)
9p > 1p (we can finish nobetan if draw 7p and pon 1s/6z)
recommend PASS on kan since you lose 45s upgrade for wait. 5p should be safe to cut to upgrade since we see 2p suji in shimocha discard against 3 6p visible for suji 5p safety
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tanyao brain it and cut 11s (earlier) to call freely. let’s try to renchan. if we pick up a 3s the hand is worth at least 5800 so go big
2s (that you cut) > 6m. 3s draw let’s you use 45s ryanmen again since it becomes part of 123s. don’t need another ryanmen shape at this point
2p > 7z. your 3p acceptance? I know you want 1m for 3m acceptance for dora
dama. keeping 3p for ron is nice but if we draw bad tile we need to fold. we also have enough safe tiles to get out of the round (118p). you are also in first place and do not have to commit to the bit here at all, the other players can deal in to each other. you have another round in south 4 to get a hand if kamicha does tsumo. consider these things when deciding push/fold.
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CLOCK MANAGEMENT. Don’t take up so much time for decisions that are overall not too consequential to the match. save your reserve time for when you need to make more difficult decisions (push/fold? out of safe tiles to discard) rather than burning time on minor efficiency decisions in the early-mid round. You really do not want to have to make a decision on push/fold if a kamicha calls riichi and you need time to think and you only have 5s in reserve.
four blocks: break the 9p and let’s keep the chun as genbutsu. Even if we complete 66789p we gotta break 1s then
sakigiri. especially since it’s dora indicator and we have 3 pairs already
you’re the aggressor here and you’re below 4:30 (3:30 to be specific right now for 3900), so let’s get more value! You’re not folding this if someone calls riichi, so go for it!
even in a vacuum 9p > 2s in discard order anyway. considering additional factors, there’s no chanta here either and you’re sabotaging your hon itsu
naga wind discard prefernce: non-value honors > value honors. even then we should hold the hatsu as it still has a chance to pair up for value. if you draw a nan pair here, are you really happy anyway? I would only consider this if hatsu was twice cut instead
just keep your 13p shape. 8s doesn’t really offer you anything better here just yet. You already have 5 good blocks (78m 56p 99p 123s 77z) so expanding into a 78s if you keep 8s and draw 7s doesn’t really improve our hand further here.
probably a more aggressive atozuke then i’m personally comfortabl with. but even if you get to riichi it’s most likely nomi anyway, so perhaps atozuke can make sense here
8s genbutsu. use it. hatsu is uncut and more dangerous
1m genbutsu froim shimocha. why do we need to test suji ?
0m is relatively safe and ripping 6s prevents us from reaching keiten. since we’ve seen tedashi since it could be dangerous. but unlikely.
I prefer 9p but I actually don’t know this one
value honors > isolated terminal. try not to hold ‘genbutsu’ first row when you don’t have enough blocks
2/8 > value honors since they have higher ukeire, in general
honestly i don’t think i’d catch this but if toimen doesn’t want 0m but cuts 2m tedashi from his hand. what does he have left in his hand? but an easier way to read this is if you wanna fold you have safe 1s from shimocha
genbutsu > once cut honors for safety, though I think being aggressive and pushing against it since you are dealer is ok since we are playing for 1st and not 4th avoiding
value honors> terminal
in general naga prefers to break uncut value honors over once cut honors. this changes if you have something nice like dora 3 and want to full offense your hand
1shanten 25m57s vs returning to 2shanten? we should try to be efficient to get to riichi. unless you want to fold here instead. then 8s would be better since you still maintain 1shanten on 25m5s
looks like we could be overfixating on pinfu
keep your daisangen potential alive. i will know that you are no dreamer
too far for hon itsu, so break your honors. either nan for being round wind or hatsu for having the least uradora available
take the 1shanten on 789m123s. we don’t need to float ‘nice’ 2shanten
i wonder if the value proposition on kan changes if you’re already at 5200 going to 6400. the difference is low though so i see this more as 50/50, but since we’re playing for 1st lets err on the side of being more offensive and go for it
50/50, though if you reallyi want to wait for a better wait then you should cut 8s instad since you destroyed your 5p/0p acceptance. you would riichi sanmenchan 147p right?
value honor > terminals. perhaps ittsu is a stretch. 2s is…. very bad here
value honor > terminals
4s acceptance > 9s acceptance? even if you want to play full safety 8s is once cut vs 3s being uncut
hooray
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disclaimer: kamicha’s name was changed to dumbfuck for not being compatible with naga
>wait one turn i pass
56m is the weakest block here since 23m lets us accept dora, 223p has the widest acceptance and 33s lets us cal for toitoi (chun) 2600/5200. 33s is weaker but definitely dont ruin the 223p
33s is now the weakest block. but we have 6 blocks.
we have to blow up one of 23p or 33s. if we’re doing 23p, save the 2p for last since its more genbutsuey than 3p (genbutsu to toimen and suji to kamicha)
let’s keep our tanyao dora (iipeikou) 1shanten instead of shooting for san an kou, since an an kou requires us to toss 0s
pin zu is pretty scary and we can mawashi a bit with 4p. just because we are dealer does not mean we need to push full offense. let’s also consider preserving our lead
HON ITSU. also, once cut value honor > non-value honor
i guess non value honor > twice cut value honor since twice cut value honor no longer has value
suji 7p is safer but you would need to cut 7s anyway for sanshoku. so im in different
we don’t have a pair yet so catching 8s for 56789s to draw a pair on 5689s would be very useful. whereas drawing 23s doesnt move the needle on this hand very much
tanyao? chun is probably slow at this point
tenpai!
cut honors before 2 and 8 unless you have hon itsu / chanta. i think you are valuing 2 and 8 too low
once cut value honor > nonvalue honor
i don’t see value potential besides riichi so quick hand is more ideal here
shimocha is playing chanta so 4m > 1m
value honor > terminal. 9s has sanshoku potential so we dont toss that
5 block theory. 5m isnt adding anything to us here to warrant blowing up another block. we can already accept 4m and 7m, so the only thing its adding is 6m acceptance. don’t be afraid to break 5m when you can accept 14m / 69m
3s > 1m. plus, you have 3m ‘acceptance’ with 55m
HONORS and shit
not much value here besides adding dora so lets make it quick
you chucked the 4m already so commit to the hon itsu bit. consider that we are trying to clear a 13900 point difference to get to 1st and we don’t have our dealer turn anymore. so we need value. even if we win this pei chun 2000 we still have 11900 points to go which is still outside of mangan tsumo range in south 3.
in a vacuum, if you dont need tan yao, a 2p is more likely to be obtained than a 6p.
terminal > non-value honor. Unless you are thinking of hon itsu? but that’s pretty far so i don’t think so
1p > 9p on both 19 being genbutsu and you already have 36p acceptance on 4p draw. if you wanna make the argument that 8p is three cut ruining your 79p kanchan you should have tossed 9m the moment hte 3rd 8p was thrown
terminal > value honor. maybe you are considering 8p acceptance but i dont think its that useful here
use known genbutsu 1s first over testing 1z
8p is NOT safe to kamicha
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dont think 1s is doing too much for us here? let’s be on the offensive with such a strong hand
ponten sanshoku
>wait one turn indifferent
6p has already passed and is genbutsu to two players can we use that instead?
BLOCKS. plus why are we btfoing our only pair?
DAI SAN GEN POTENTIAL. also, value honor > terminal
drawing 4p keeping 3p is better than drawing 3m keeping 2m
let’s preserve our attacking shape by tossing 1z
fix the 777p by cutting 6p. we are ok with a quick hand here given point difference anyway
indifferent but wait is depleted and we dont need to lock ourselves into becoming open to being chased is the reasoning i think for dama. either/or is fine i think
why are we blowing a good block up instead of throwing away the useless tile
if we use 5 block theory we have 12m 78m 89p 2234s 68s 7z… we have sanshoku 6789 possible so 89p is better than 12m. since we don’t have a fixed pair yet we can keep the 2234s aryanmen shape and maybe catch the dora later… so let’s break the weakest block 12m
i don’t actually like 4p that much here since we’re furiten on 3p draw. so i’d probably do 4p here instead of chun. i think cutting 9p seems too tan yao brained personally… but maybe tan yao brain is good?
since we have WAY too many blocks here (0m)(9m)(34p)(8p)(35s)(78s)(22z)(4z)(77z), let’s cut the more dangerous useless tiles first. if you know you’re gonna toss out two tiles eventually, if someone were to call riichi the next turn, which tile would you rather be holding?
think this is a little too early to chii since it’s a good block, but on the other hand even if we can use 0m it only turns our hand from 1000 to 2000…. id say its ok
think it wants to sakigiri the 6p now before toimen’s hand advances further before his chin itsu advances further. if he pons 6p his hand is kinda ruined anyway. the next two differences are the same tile
the snakes diverge here in their approach and i think you have a good case of either one of sakigiri vs dora upgrade.
hand is worth 39 without kan, 52 with kan and flipping dora turns it to mangan – looking at other players discards i think we’re pretty ahead in terms of shanten… let’s get more points!
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
from a purely efficiency standpoint the 1s does nothing since if we draw 3s we can toss 7s… so maybe we can hold the 8m for a 7m upgrade
you need value here as 4th in s2 and open tanyao for 1k doesn’t get us anywhere… even the aggressive open snake is 50/50 on it (the right most bar)
tossing 4s let’s you pivot to toitoi tanyao for more value. but both end up dealing in anyway…
CHIITOI BROS????????????????????????????????? that’s like our fastest ticket to a mangan hand here… haneman on riichi tsumo…
i think this makes sense if you think you can catch the 6s but you just have more options for improvement drawing 34s here or be able to utilize 0s with ankou if you draw it here
bot wants keiten since you need every point you can get… you’re gonna cut 1m anyway but 5s is a little giri giri so its either/or since u end up drawing it
alright what’s our plan to get out of here…. point gap is 14800 so we need a direct mangan on kamicha… im liking some sort of chanta or hon itsu… 5m is neither of those… whereas we have a shot at honitsu with the 45s block…
i think you’re thinking chiitoi here… probably ok…
kinda cooked honestly but how do you use the 9s anyway idk
actually trying to think about why bot would wait dama on this… my only argument would be even if you hit kamicha with mangan you need uradora 2 to make a swing out of 4th… if we wait for someone else to call riichi then we can make the direct mangan hit on kamicha lock in a placement change to 3rd. it’s pretty far but so is hitting uradora 2 with this hand
congratulations your stats for this round puts you at a houou level player!!! good job
uh…. do we have a use case for 2z here? 9s lets us use 78s for dora but if you see it as sakigiri i think its fine
useless terminal is better than useless wind
i dont think our hand is that much better if we pon……….? we lose our 9s acceptance
we killed out 123 sanshoku acceptance! for what!!!!!!!!!!!
lock the souzu to sanshoku 123s since 5s draw furitens us anyway. so sakigiri 4s. it’s useless now.
i dont think we need to be tricky here. just take the wider wait. it’s turn 3. plus the xia pon destroys its ura rate if you wanna get extremely technical.
we have a safer tile to drop than 9s that still keeps us 2shanten… we don’t have to die just yet if we can help it… and you died….
uhhhh you wanted to break furiten on 1s? but you’re also furiten on 1m…. so that doesnt make sense…
i pass both tiles are equally useless
can we do chi 678m dump 99s for tanyao instead? i dont think we have to rely on haitei/houtei here
bot wants to chi dump 99s for the last two tiles. we’ll still be tenpai tossing safe tiles whereas if we leave it as is we could draw 2 risky tiles. i think you were fixating haitei which is an out
seat wind > valueless wind. both are once cut so you can’t defend yourself there
floating 3p is kinda useless. you’re not getting san an kou here either with 2 1p and 1 2p cut. 7p/9p for dora usage is what it values here
gg dude the bot likes you! i think if you persevere you will see results
